For my money Hotspot is a better contender for that accolade. It just doesn't have a "Being Boring" but other than that it's solid IMHO.tottenhammattspurs wrote: ↑Sat 20 Jun 2020, 6:36 pm Elysium is the Behaviour of the 21st century. In another 12 years you’ll realise just how good it actually is.
The flip side of that is that there are some fans (not you I’m sure) who cannot see that PSB have some duff work in their canon. I don’t dislike all of Elysium, but it’s one of my least favourite and with the exception of 3 songs, even after 8 years, it’s no better.Gabby wrote: ↑Sat 20 Jun 2020, 6:24 pmElysium is totally underrated. It achieves what the Boys set out to do by capturing a West Coast vibe. I can imagine myself on a beach or by a pool in LA with a drink listening to this and loving it.NotInvisible wrote: ↑Fri 19 Jun 2020, 2:53 amI don't think I'd consider much of that "uninspired" really. That's a label I'd apply to A Red Letter Day and much of Nightlife.glennjridge wrote: ↑Fri 19 Jun 2020, 1:17 am Elysium, looking back on it....the lyrics are a passable set of Tennant lyrics. but I think the real problem is there is alot of uninspired music.
Memory of the future,hold on,everything means something,your early stuff,winner,ego music.
while I know some will say they LOVE some of them, I think most would agree for 1 album...thats alot of clinkers to have.
Memory of the Future is the Pet Shop Boys doing ABBA, and I think on any other album it wouldn't get as much flack. It's basically the equivalent of something like Tonight Is Forever or Shopping, which are placeholder album tracks of similar caliber. But it seems anything prior to '94 is bulletproof in many fans' eyes. Something like A New Life would get absolutely slated if it had come out on Elysium, and let's not even pretend otherwise.
Hold On is great IMO. It's unlike anything they've ever done, and I think it's lovely. As a Nightlife b-side we'd all be raving about it. I appreciate the sentiment isn't very PSB but then again, what could be worse than holding them to a stereotype.
Everything Means Something is skippable. But again it's new territory for them, so I'm not sure "uninspired" is accurate, and its not like they don't have tracks of this quality on other albums.
Your Early Stuff is a stone cold classic that absolutely shines in every regard. I remain convinced this track will be rediscovered down the road and eventually be held up with Leaving and Invisible - a trio of songs that fans would be lauding if only they had been on Behaviour (likewise move It's Only The Wind, To Face The Truth, My October Symphony, Nervously or The End Of The World to Elysium and the some of the same people who call them masterpieces now would be moaning about them.
Winner may be uninspired in the sense that it's perfect pop for another group, which PSB can knock out in their sleep. It doesn't cover new ground (bar the optimism) and like most, I find the album version terrible as a Pet Shop Boys release. But it's actually a solid pop song - the instrumental and the HappySad mix both confirm this - and I maintain it would have been a hit for Take That.
Ego Music is awful but "uninspired" it ain't. There's nothing like it.
Long story short - the fans are unadventurous morons, and listening to them is the absolute last thing Neil and Chris should ever do.
I gotta agree that the fans who deride this album just arent grasping how well crafted and different this album is.
It says what I think about the tedious fans who can't understand that the imperial phase ended 35 years ago, anyway.
Have you watched the title of this topic?.NotInvisible wrote: ↑Sun 21 Jun 2020, 12:30 amIt says what I think about the tedious fans who can't understand that the imperial phase ended 35 years ago, anyway.
Fantastic suggestion, I could see this working. I adore Jessie too!Debussy wrote: ↑Mon 29 Jun 2020, 2:10 pm James Ford has produced Jessie Ware's new album 'What's Your Pleasure?'. A sublime pop album that nods to many artists and references, yet sounds contemporary.
He has beautifully combined electronics with elegant orchestration and production, not a million miles from PSB. Listen to 'The Kill', the intro could be a PSB song.
Fantastic Album. Definite contender for Album of the year, there’s not a bad song on it.Debussy wrote:James Ford has produced Jessie Ware's new album 'What's Your Pleasure?'. A sublime pop album that nods to many artists and references, yet sounds contemporary.
He has beautifully combined electronics with elegant orchestration and production, not a million miles from PSB. Listen to 'The Kill', the intro could be a PSB song.
Jesus no! 'You only tell me you love me when you're drunk' IS where they go too wrong.
The production on that album is superb.PopKid78 wrote: ↑Mon 06 Jul 2020, 4:14 pmFantastic Album. Definite contender for Album of the year, there’s not a bad song on it.Debussy wrote:James Ford has produced Jessie Ware's new album 'What's Your Pleasure?'. A sublime pop album that nods to many artists and references, yet sounds contemporary.
He has beautifully combined electronics with elegant orchestration and production, not a million miles from PSB. Listen to 'The Kill', the intro could be a PSB song.
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