Anti Social Social Club

[ChoonHound]

Not to mention the talk shows, the radio 1 appearances, the endless documentaries…. exposure has always been the motivator.

[Gabby]

The concept of "selling out" appears to be a relative term dependent on the start point of the person(s) you're talking about.

One here suggested PSB sold out when they moved to Parlophone. Another suggesting when they made a movie. Name your "selling out" point.

Ultimately no matter WHO you are as an artist it's about shifting your product. How you decide that goes is up to the individual. If taping at home and selling your music from the back of a van is it, great. If mass pressings of CDs in giant corporate record stores, go for it! If online only is your mantra, do you become a sell out if you decide one day to release something physically?

[ChoonHound]

I agree, kinda. The PSB never had aspirations, as best I can tell, of not being as commercial as possible. For a brief moment in 1984 they were “underground” but I don’t think it was ever their desire to remain there.

[richwill]

The concept of "selling out" appears to be a relative term dependent on the start point of the person(s) you're talking about.

One here suggested PSB sold out when they moved to Parlophone. Another suggesting when they made a movie. Name your "selling out" point.

Ultimately no matter WHO you are as an artist it's about shifting your product. How you decide that goes is up to the individual. If taping at home and selling your music from the back of a van is it, great. If mass pressings of CDs in giant corporate record stores, go for it! If online only is your mantra, do you become a sell out if you decide one day to release something physically?

That's a straw man argument. This is about this particular instance of their giving up any sense of distinctive style in return for cold hard cash.

[richwill]

I agree, kinda. The PSB never had aspirations, as best I can tell, of not being as commercial as possible. For a brief moment in 1984 they were “underground” but I don’t think it was ever their desire to remain there.

It was never their aim to make cash and get exposure and fame at any cost. They were openly opposed to that sort of thing.

[Dog]

The concept of "selling out" appears to be a relative term dependent on the start point of the person(s) you're talking about.

One here suggested PSB sold out when they moved to Parlophone. Another suggesting when they made a movie. Name your "selling out" point. ‍

Ultimately no matter WHO you are as an artist it's about shifting your product. How you decide that goes is up to the individual. If taping at home and selling your music from the back of a van is it, great. If mass pressings of CDs in giant corporate record stores, go for it! If online only is your mantra, do you become a sell out if you decide one day to release something physically?

That's a straw man argument. This is about this particular instance of their giving up any sense of distinctive style in return for cold hard cash.

It’s a collaboration. You’re not compelled to like it. It may well not be for you.

[y3potential]

I can see both sides here. However, I will say this is the band that lost a small fortune (allegedly) because they refused to have the Performance Tour sponsored by Pepsi and funded a lot of it themselves.. At the time I admired their stance, but now I'm thinking why on earth would you turn down that kind of financial backing..??

[NotInvisible]

This is about this particular instance of their giving up any sense of distinctive style in return for cold hard cash.

No, it’s about collaborating. You don’t have to like the result, but they obviously liked the idea of seeing what PSB in ASSC’s world would look like. That isn’t selling out, grow up.

[NotInvisible]

I can see both sides here. However, I will say this is the band that lost a small fortune (allegedly) because they refused to have the Performance Tour sponsored by Pepsi and funded a lot of it themselves.. At the time I admired their stance, but now I'm thinking why on earth would you turn down that kind of financial backing..??

They were young and dumb and flush with cash for the first time in their lives. They were also ignorant of the logistics of touring; the book Literally gets into how they didn’t understand tour sponsorship in the first place.

[TallThinMan]

I can see both sides here. However, I will say this is the band that lost a small fortune (allegedly) because they refused to have the Performance Tour sponsored by Pepsi and funded a lot of it themselves.. At the time I admired their stance, but now I'm thinking why on earth would you turn down that kind of financial backing..??

Because you want it to be about your art and not about a sugary soft drink that rots your teeth.

[Gabby]

I can see both sides here. However, I will say this is the band that lost a small fortune (allegedly) because they refused to have the Performance Tour sponsored by Pepsi and funded a lot of it themselves.. At the time I admired their stance, but now I'm thinking why on earth would you turn down that kind of financial backing..??

Because you want it to be about your art and not about a sugary soft drink that rots your teeth.

New Order would like a word.

[richwill]

Are some of the people here also regular contributors to Pepsi forums?

Do youse also have other favourite brands, like, I dunno, Zanussi or Andrex?

[NotInvisible]

Are some of the people here also regular contributors to Pepsi forums?

Is there such a thing?

Do youse also have other favourite brands, like, I dunno, Zanussi or Andrex?

I don’t actually like the brands PSB has collaborated with, but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that they’re working with companies within their wheelhouse of fashion and design. This sort of false comparison just reads as an admission that you’ve lost the argument.