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#136 Post by Spittingcat »

Love the sound of Super.

Hotspot is the album where I'd most like to hear the demos.

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#137 Post by Spittingcat »

[ and Super is the album I'd most like an instrumental version of ]

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#138 Post by telys »

Dog wrote: Mon 23 Sep 2024, 7:34 am
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jasonjohn wrote: Mon 23 Sep 2024, 3:26 am

Maybe? The thing they give to a producer is generally called a "demo"?

Anyway I'm just wondering if there are any more out there I've missed hearing
Hague is credited with "additional production " . That's why I suspect what they handed over was more of a finished product than merely demoes, think of DJ Culture and Disappointed as a reference where Hague did extra work for the 7" versions
From the Further Listening booklet:

“In those days Chris had a studio in an outhouse at his home in Hertfordshire. The Pet Shop Boys recorded the basic tracks for Very there, working with the programmer Pete Gleadall who had previously programmed their tours, then they moved to Sarm West to complete recording, before handing the tracks over to Stephen Hague for additional production and mixing at RAK studios. "It's great at a certain point to give it someone else," says Neil. However, this was the first Pet Shop Boys album they would primarily produce themselves. "We didn't feel experienced enough before," Neil explains. "Although we had produced other people," Chris says, "it's easier producing someone other than yourself."”
So there we have it.
Perhaps Hagues role was kind of enoesque. I read on one of the sleeves of a U2 album that Brian Eno was credited with "treatments"... oh so pretentious. My guess is Hague's role on Very was more in the mix than in the production.
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#139 Post by negative_0ne »

Spittingcat wrote: Mon 23 Sep 2024, 11:19 am [ and Super is the album I'd most like an instrumental version of ]
that shouldn't be too hard to recreate.

i'll give it a go at some point.

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#140 Post by Danimal »

It’s been many decades, but I remember reading in an interview somewhere Neil providing an example of what Stephen Hague brought to “Very.” Neil stated that Hague added the horn riffs to “I wouldn’t normally do this kind of thing.” Based upon this, I think Hague’s role was to basically add flourishes and otherwise fill-out the sound of the album.

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#141 Post by negative_0ne »

Spittingcat wrote: Mon 23 Sep 2024, 11:19 am [ and Super is the album I'd most like an instrumental version of ]
here's a megamix... came out pretty good..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEO-5nDO5ZA

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and just to be ontopic..

here's a megamix instrumental of all the b-sides and remixes from
the 4 singles off the album so far..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YtuhPyiaX0

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#142 Post by Alphonse »

I love the design of the expanded version of Nonetheless. First time I see it today. Great!
like a dud sub-sonic beat-box
booming bass under the bed

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#143 Post by britboy »

They should have called the extended version 'Nevertheless', it makes it apart from 'Nonetheless' but still keeps it together...

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#144 Post by Spittingcat »

here's a megamix... came out pretty good..
Thanks. Enjoyed that. Lots of instrumentation removed as well as the vocals though. Maybe one day we’ll get the proper instrumentals.

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