A New Bohemia - 3rd single fr Nonetheless

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#301 Post by Whosematchesarethose »

I have to say I think this is the best singles package in years. Love both b-sides and the mix of New Bohemia is outstanding. My only wish (and I know I am asking a lot) is for the final verse of the demo to have made it onto the re-mix, could have pushed it out to 8 minutes then!!!

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Whosematchesarethose wrote: Fri 07 Jun 2024, 2:32 pm I have to say I think this is the best singles package in years. Love both b-sides and the mix of New Bohemia is outstanding. My only wish (and I know I am asking a lot) is for the final verse of the demo to have made it onto the re-mix, could have pushed it out to 8 minutes then!!!
Surprised they didn't even record an extended version with those lyrics in but I guess if they had it'd be on the single package instead of the demo. I suppose that means they ditched that final verse fairly early on in the recording process.

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#303 Post by Leonidas »

I hope this is their last proper tour and they start to release albums more regularly - max. every 2 years.

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#304 Post by daveid »

Leonidas wrote: Fri 07 Jun 2024, 4:57 pm I hope this is their last proper tour and they start to release albums more regularly - max. every 2 years.
agreed

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#305 Post by billjermaine »

Debussy wrote: Thu 06 Jun 2024, 6:58 am Maybe its just me but I'm a little obsessed with the non-rhyming in the chorus...
"I've got plans involving you, gonna put them into operation just you wait and see". The off-kilterness of that compared to their current rhyming feels oddly very PSB.
Love the Bobby O chords when the chorus kicks in but good lord those lyrics are all kinds of naff. Probably needed to be reworked into a middle 8, or completely rewritten or something, but I guess they would've lost that nostalgic connection to when they wrote it. The song would actually function quite beautifully without it.

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#306 Post by Sandy Shaw »

Debussy wrote: Thu 06 Jun 2024, 6:58 am The two b sides have really captured something very PSB, in my opinion. Nestled in a playlist of 80s b sides they're great. Both throwaway old tracks and weirdly current new tracks.
Maybe its just me but I'm a little obsessed with the non-rhyming in the chorus...
"I've got plans involving you, gonna put them into operation just you wait and see". The off-kilterness of that compared to their current rhyming feels oddly very PSB.
Oh, and it ends too soon.
I'd like it maybe just one time to go ''I've got plans involving you and me'...
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#307 Post by Danimal »

After having listen to this latest release a number of times here's my thoughts:
1. In my opinion this is their best overall single package since "Dreamland."
2. "It's not a crime": nothing special and I see why it was left unreleased. The little 80s R&B riffs that were characteristic of their early songs don't appear until the final few seconds. Not a bad b-side though.
3. "I’ve got plans (involving you)": This is an ace early composition and it does make one wonder why so many of their early songs often remain on the shelf for so long. The little 80s R&B riffs that were characteristic of their early songs (as mentioned above) are much more prominent in this composition and really add charm to the recording. This would have fit right in on "Please" and I would have preferred its inclusion to "I want a lover" or "Why don't we live together?" which were both cheesy as hell.
4. "A new Bohemia" demo: To me this illustrates why an entire album of the "Nonetheless" demos should be released. The demo perfectly demonstrates how James Ford simplified PSBs original recordings. Ford's less complex production makes the song more poignant, and thus grants it more impact. Along with the "Vocal" demo, the contrast between the demo and the finished recording shows why having a talented producer involved can be vitally important. However, that's not to take away from the original demo itself which, as a PSB production (again like the "Vocal" demo) is amazing in its own right. I do wish they would have left the extra verse in the final production as that would have made the song more personal to Pet Shop Boys than it already is. It does make one wonder what other lyric changes occurred between the original demos and what ultimately appeared on the album.

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#308 Post by ChoonHound »

Danimal wrote: Sat 08 Jun 2024, 9:43 pm This would have fit right in on "Please" and I would have preferred its inclusion to "I want a lover" or "Why don't we live together?" which were both cheesy as hell.
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#309 Post by Patrick Bateman »

I love how in the video the sequences with Les Petites Bons Bons walking around are basically a reverie, and Neil and Chris are both dressed (slightly) differently in them.

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#310 Post by 102dB »

The box with fish & chips at the end of the video, comes from a beachfront takeaway called "Beach Buoys".

See the photos of the Beach Buoys boxes on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/beach_buoys/
https://www.beachbuoys.co.uk/
https://www.buoyandoyster.com/

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#311 Post by 102dB »

A better view of the Beach Buoys fish & chips box at the end of the video.
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#312 Post by Gabby »

Am I the only one who, when they see fish and chips served in a cardboard box, still yearns for the days when it was wrapped in newspaper?

I was in the UK in April and my first stop, as always, was the nearest chippy. It was the first time I'd had it served to me in a box, and it just wasn't the same experience.

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#313 Post by Too Many Shadows »

Gabby wrote: Tue 11 Jun 2024, 1:09 pm Am I the only one who, when they see fish and chips served in a cardboard box, still yearns for the days when it was wrapped in newspaper?

I was in the UK in April and my first stop, as always, was the nearest chippy. It was the first time I'd had it served to me in a box, and it just wasn't the same experience.
News to me. Apparently the inks are carcinogenic.
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#314 Post by Gabby »

Too Many Shadows wrote: Tue 11 Jun 2024, 4:15 pm
Gabby wrote: Tue 11 Jun 2024, 1:09 pm Am I the only one who, when they see fish and chips served in a cardboard box, still yearns for the days when it was wrapped in newspaper?

I was in the UK in April and my first stop, as always, was the nearest chippy. It was the first time I'd had it served to me in a box, and it just wasn't the same experience.
News to me. Apparently the inks are carcinogenic.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com//n ... aign=cppst
Yeah they stopped with actual newspaper years ago, and started using just, well, paper (some opted to print the paper to look like newsprint - not sure how the ink was any less carcinogenic, but ho hum).

Nonetheless, I did make it through the 70's and 80's alive in spite of it. Doesn't seem to have done my 80 year old dad any harm either. So who knows? 🤷🏻‍♂️

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#315 Post by Vintage Youth »

I imagine there's too much money to be made by retailers on returns these days, plus the decline in the industry/number of titles and the skyrocketing prices of paper and ink. The latter two are why they can't pay us any more or hire, apparently. Lol.

My local chippy wraps the polystyrene in paper and then a thin plastic bag. Tres ecologically friendly.

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