Do you think the crowd is enthusiastic with no hits?
Re: Do you think the crowd is enthusiastic with no hits?
I still don't understand how 'Leaving' fits into all this, and why they even bother with it live. To a non-fan it's a clock watching moment, as is 'I get excited' and 'One more chance/Face like that' among others
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I miss the saxophone in "Suburbia", "Go West" doesn't sound as big as it sounded in previous tours. I agree with your argument.Bjossi wrote:I have never seen them live but the live versions I have heard from the professional recordings or leaks have sounded... underwhelming to me. Always on My Mind for instances, has such powerful beats and sounds in the single and extended mixes but its live versions generally have these dull, powerless beats that just leave me cold. I'm sure it sounds much better live with the big ass speakers and whatnot, but then I can only imagine how intense the experience would be if the underlying track was powerful as well.
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I'm glad they keep coming up with new music, and I certainly don't want them to keep repeating themselves. Everything doesn't have to be "anthemic", it would start to be a joke after awhile. The fact that 30 years in, they can still charge premium prices for tickets and play a mix of new and older music on stage is a good thing, not a negative.nickname wrote:Another problem is the new songs don't sound so anthemic/stomper/banging/filmic/epic like the old ones. The last PSB song that sounded a bit like that was "All over the world".
It's obvious general public appreciate much more the uptempo and epic songs from PSB than the slow songs. Back to the old days, none of the PSB's slow songs has been a hit. When they released a slow song after a bit hit, that song didn't reach a good chart position (ex: Westend Girls - Love comes quickly).
In my opinion, the only downtempo song with potential to be a hit was "King's Cross".
I'm a big fan of PSB and I follow all their steps but I understand why people appreciate the old songs. Because these songs are better.
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Re: Do you think the crowd is enthusiastic with no hits?
+1boyjohn wrote:I'm glad they keep coming up with new music, and I certainly don't want them to keep repeating themselves. Everything doesn't have to be "anthemic", it would start to be a joke after awhile. The fact that 30 years in, they can still charge premium prices for tickets and play a mix of new and older music on stage is a good thing, not a negative.nickname wrote:Another problem is the new songs don't sound so anthemic/stomper/banging/filmic/epic like the old ones. The last PSB song that sounded a bit like that was "All over the world".
It's obvious general public appreciate much more the uptempo and epic songs from PSB than the slow songs. Back to the old days, none of the PSB's slow songs has been a hit. When they released a slow song after a bit hit, that song didn't reach a good chart position (ex: Westend Girls - Love comes quickly).
In my opinion, the only downtempo song with potential to be a hit was "King's Cross".
I'm a big fan of PSB and I follow all their steps but I understand why people appreciate the old songs. Because these songs are better.
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The thing is they are repeating themselves with downtempo and uninspiring ballads or bland dark songs. Most of them go nowhere even for fans.boyjohn wrote:I'm glad they keep coming up with new music, and I certainly don't want them to keep repeating themselves. Everything doesn't have to be "anthemic", it would start to be a joke after awhile. The fact that 30 years in, they can still charge premium prices for tickets and play a mix of new and older music on stage is a good thing, not a negative.nickname wrote:Another problem is the new songs don't sound so anthemic/stomper/banging/filmic/epic like the old ones. The last PSB song that sounded a bit like that was "All over the world".
It's obvious general public appreciate much more the uptempo and epic songs from PSB than the slow songs. Back to the old days, none of the PSB's slow songs has been a hit. When they released a slow song after a bit hit, that song didn't reach a good chart position (ex: Westend Girls - Love comes quickly).
In my opinion, the only downtempo song with potential to be a hit was "King's Cross".
I'm a big fan of PSB and I follow all their steps but I understand why people appreciate the old songs. Because these songs are better.
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Are you saying you find songs like Leaving and Memory Of The Future uninspiring and bland, I'm genuinly shocked if this is the case and are you of all people suggesting that the last single released of Electric (I'm not counting fluorescent) is any of the above?nickname wrote:The thing is they are repeating themselves with downtempo and uninspiring ballads or bland dark songs. Most of them go nowhere even for fans.boyjohn wrote:I'm glad they keep coming up with new music, and I certainly don't want them to keep repeating themselves. Everything doesn't have to be "anthemic", it would start to be a joke after awhile. The fact that 30 years in, they can still charge premium prices for tickets and play a mix of new and older music on stage is a good thing, not a negative.nickname wrote:Another problem is the new songs don't sound so anthemic/stomper/banging/filmic/epic like the old ones. The last PSB song that sounded a bit like that was "All over the world".
It's obvious general public appreciate much more the uptempo and epic songs from PSB than the slow songs. Back to the old days, none of the PSB's slow songs has been a hit. When they released a slow song after a bit hit, that song didn't reach a good chart position (ex: Westend Girls - Love comes quickly).
In my opinion, the only downtempo song with potential to be a hit was "King's Cross".
I'm a big fan of PSB and I follow all their steps but I understand why people appreciate the old songs. Because these songs are better.
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You can't compare these songs with the classics, that's for sure. I'm not a hardcore fan.BugBoy wrote:Are you saying you find songs like Leaving and Memory Of The Future uninspiring and bland, I'm genuinly shocked if this is the case and are you of all people suggesting that the last single released of Electric (I'm not counting fluorescent) is any of the above?nickname wrote:The thing is they are repeating themselves with downtempo and uninspiring ballads or bland dark songs. Most of them go nowhere even for fans.boyjohn wrote:
I'm glad they keep coming up with new music, and I certainly don't want them to keep repeating themselves. Everything doesn't have to be "anthemic", it would start to be a joke after awhile. The fact that 30 years in, they can still charge premium prices for tickets and play a mix of new and older music on stage is a good thing, not a negative.
We fell in love with PSB with anthemic, filmic, uptempo and stomper songs and fun pop songs. The new ones are usually ballads talking about midlife crisis, deaths, etc. In my opinion unispirting and depressing songs, just the opposite. That's why they lost so many fans so fast in my opinion. They changed a lot.
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There's obviously a divide here, to some hardcore fans they will never, ever do any wrong, every song is an anthem etc etc like you state above. Maybe they've run out of subjects!BugBoy wrote:
Are you saying you find songs like Leaving and Memory Of The Future uninspiring and bland, I'm genuinly shocked if this is the case and are you of all people suggesting that the last single released of Electric (I'm not counting fluorescent) is any of the above?
Where in reality, and particularly those two songs above, the quality simply doesn't match up, I'm shocked they're even persisting with Leaving on this current tour. During the Pandemonium tour, there were hardly any chances to pop out for a smoke and get another pint, whereas this electric tour has many oppourtunities to get out, take time to roll a joint and go to the toilet and be back to the arena again to wake up my GF
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I have to say that I don't think those two tracks I quoted above would feel out of place in the late 80's musically, I think they are up there with some of their finest and most sublime moments.DJ Pat wrote:There's obviously a divide here, to some hardcore fans they will never, ever do any wrong, every song is an anthem etc etc like you state above. Maybe they've run out of subjects!BugBoy wrote:
Are you saying you find songs like Leaving and Memory Of The Future uninspiring and bland, I'm genuinly shocked if this is the case and are you of all people suggesting that the last single released of Electric (I'm not counting fluorescent) is any of the above?
Where in reality, and particularly those two songs above, the quality simply doesn't match up, I'm shocked they're even persisting with Leaving on this current tour. During the Pandemonium tour, there were hardly any chances to pop out for a smoke and get another pint, whereas this electric tour has many oppourtunities to get out, take time to roll a joint and go to the toilet and be back to the arena again to wake up my GF
The difference with Pandy and Electric I think is the staging. Pandy had a slow/ballad middle portion (Do I Have To/Kings Cross/The Way It Used To Be) and never suffered. The production on stage with dancers and visual impact kept the show going whereas in comparison the Electric show just came across as somewhat crude, a bit rushed and unfinished. Of course with so many tracks to choose from they are never going to make everyone happy, I'm just happy they are still going, making new music and touring.
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It is a difficult one, on the first hand it is great for us hardcore fans to hear album tracks and b-sides played live that have rarely been performed but for others (like my girlfriend for example) it is hard to get into songs they may never have heard or may have rarely heard. I have played Discography, PopArt and Electric to her but not all the older albums so for her she didn't know the songs at all enough to get into them but once they played Go west and Its a sin for example she was loving it. I much preferred the Pandemonium tour as there was much more too it and I have played the DVD to my other half and she said she would have preferred it too. Not saying the Electric tour is poor, it is still great but just not as good in my opinion.
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Me too but I think they have to do something more creative with their songs.BugBoy wrote: I'm just happy they are still going, making new music and touring.
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And the Electric stage show, they can't just get by with the silly costumes and dancers, and without any interaction from Neil whatsoever, you may as well be watching the opening show projected onto a huge screen onstage time and time againnickname wrote:Me too but I think they have to do something more creative with their songs.BugBoy wrote: I'm just happy they are still going, making new music and touring.
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They need to do a kylie-esque "anti tour". Small venues, or a 3000 seated one-off (Hammersmith Apollo?) for fans only. Loads of b sides, album tracks and other obscure stuff. It'll get it "out of their system" and will please the hardcore.
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That would be perfect! Always thought the Goetz B extended version of The resurrectionist would make a great opening song.
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No way.tottenhammattspurs wrote:They need to do a kylie-esque "anti tour". Small venues, or a 3000 seated one-off (Hammersmith Apollo?) for fans only. Loads of b sides, album tracks and other obscure stuff. It'll get it "out of their system" and will please the hardcore.
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