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Re: Reissues project

#2071 Post by popfreak » Wed 06 Dec 2017, 12:52 pm

I was hoping that the March releases would've been a bit cheaper to try and persuade the fans to buy them again.

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Re: Reissues project

#2072 Post by tottenhammattspurs » Wed 06 Dec 2017, 3:52 pm

It’s a shame is just a re-remastered re-release. Each one of these could have been expanded to a three disc release to persuade us to part with our cash for the same product again. Please could have had a third disc of demos and that rare NOW 6 version of Opportunities, Actually could have had those Abbey Road demos and the Bond theme instrumentals and Introspective with all the 7” edits and stuff like “Bounce” etc.

A missed opportunity really. I only hope that the booklets are new with commentary looking back thirty years rather than just the 2001 musings
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Re: Reissues project

#2073 Post by zukunft » Wed 06 Dec 2017, 4:34 pm

tottenhammattspurs wrote:
Wed 06 Dec 2017, 3:52 pm
I only hope that the booklets are new with commentary looking back thirty years rather than just the 2001 musings
I think it will just be the same packaging, same booklet, same tracklisting, just a 2018 remastered album. Even the Further Listening discs won't be remastered.

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Re: Reissues project

#2074 Post by Future Lover » Wed 06 Dec 2017, 6:44 pm

Yep, it's already been said that the content will stay the same, but remastered i.e. louder. Now, what's that rare mix of Opportunities?

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Re: Reissues project

#2075 Post by One of the crowd » Wed 06 Dec 2017, 7:26 pm

Future Lover wrote:
Wed 06 Dec 2017, 6:44 pm
Yep, it's already been said that the content will stay the same, but remastered i.e. louder. Now, what's that rare mix of Opportunities?
The mix of Opportunities first appeared on a 7" back in 1985.

7": 1985 UK (Factory; ??) [white-label test pressing]
7": 1985 UK (Parlophone; ??) [w/l test pressing {4-3-1-1- / 3-1U-1-1-0}]
7": 1985 UK (Parlophone; R 6097 {-3-1-2})
7": 1985 ZA (EMI; EMIJ 4523) [unique wraparound picture sleeve]
3:19 Opportunities (matrix remix)
4:50 In The Night

Then appeared on Now That's What I Call Music 7 following the reissued single in 1986.

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Re: Reissues project

#2076 Post by Effen Vida » Wed 06 Dec 2017, 9:26 pm

Oh, maaaan. So an even longer wait for Behaviour, Very and Bilingual on vinyl. That's a shame.

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#2077 Post by ZiggyPSB » Wed 06 Dec 2017, 10:10 pm

£19.99 is pretty pricey for entirely previously released content on two discs that you can get on iTunes. Its still pretty glaring how the first 6 albums in FL format doesn't dig into the vault but the last 5 does big time. You put the Further Listening series on a seesaw and it'll fall in the direction of the post-Imperial albums, its that back heavy.

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Re: Reissues project

#2078 Post by Drico One » Wed 06 Dec 2017, 10:24 pm

The first six albums were released over 10 years. The next five took 13. If the last five dig deeper into the archive, it's arguably because much of the material in the first decade went on to LPs themselves. I'm not sure I buy the idea that there are loads of songs sitting around unused from the imperial phase. Recording is so much easier these days, so if there are more songs now that's partly because technology is more accessible and songs are therefore more likely to be recorded or, at least, developed more fully. The format changes over the years lent themselves to more bonus track requirements, too, meaning more songs needed to be recorded. All in all, I'm not sure it's a huge surprise that more songs have seen the light of day in the last 20 years than the first 10.

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Re: Reissues project

#2079 Post by Greendrake » Wed 06 Dec 2017, 11:03 pm

zukunft wrote:
Wed 06 Dec 2017, 4:34 pm
I think it will just be the same packaging, same booklet, same tracklisting, just a 2018 remastered album. Even the Further Listening discs won't be remastered.
Not sure about the FL disks not being remastered — it would be such a deficient job to do the albums only and simply clone the 2001 FL disks.
The 2001 remastered Don Juan (disco mix) has a glitch introduced at 4:53. Hope they fix stuff like that. Moreover, I think whether they fix that particular glitch (and also the boundary point between Nervously and The end of the world on Behaviour) will decide if I buy the new remasters or not :D.

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Re: Reissues project

#2080 Post by zukunft » Thu 07 Dec 2017, 10:29 am

Greendrake wrote:
Wed 06 Dec 2017, 11:03 pm
Not sure about the FL disks not being remastered — it would be such a deficient job to do the albums only and simply clone the 2001 FL disks.
Hm, you can interpret the official announcement in both ways.

Pet Shop Boys announce that the third set of 'Catalogue' reissues, ‘Please’, ‘Actually’ and ‘Introspective’, will be released on March 2nd, 2018.

Each release will feature brand new remasters of the original albums and the 2001 ‘Further listening’ albums which feature demos, remixes, bonus tracks. Available in 2CD and download. The CD format will include an extensive booklet, designed by Farrow, which features exclusive interviews, archive photographs and sleeve notes.

The remastered original albums will also be made available on 180g heavyweight vinyl.

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Re: Reissues project

#2081 Post by Greendrake » Thu 07 Dec 2017, 10:57 am

zukunft wrote:
Thu 07 Dec 2017, 10:29 am
you can interpret the official announcement in both ways.
Each release will feature brand new remasters of the original albums and the 2001 ‘Further listening’ albums
Because they say "remasters" (plural), I'm inclined to interpret that both the album and FL disk within each release have been remastered. Also note that the Amazon tracklists say "2018 Remastered Version" for the FL tracks.

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#2082 Post by Bulldog » Thu 07 Dec 2017, 11:00 am

Drico One wrote:
Wed 06 Dec 2017, 10:24 pm
The first six albums were released over 10 years. The next five took 13. If the last five dig deeper into the archive, it's arguably because much of the material in the first decade went on to LPs themselves. I'm not sure I buy the idea that there are loads of songs sitting around unused from the imperial phase. Recording is so much easier these days, so if there are more songs now that's partly because technology is more accessible and songs are therefore more likely to be recorded or, at least, developed more fully. The format changes over the years lent themselves to more bonus track requirements, too, meaning more songs needed to be recorded. All in all, I'm not sure it's a huge surprise that more songs have seen the light of day in the last 20 years than the first 10.

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Re: Reissues project

#2083 Post by Disco. » Thu 07 Dec 2017, 11:31 am

Maybe its because, it has to be of master quality, as Neil has stated.

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Re: Reissues project

#2084 Post by Tom Angel » Thu 07 Dec 2017, 2:11 pm

I still wonder if a song like Love and War (from behaviour sessions I believe) might still see the light of day and was purposefully left off the further listings so it might be re-recorded -
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Re: Reissues project

#2085 Post by tottenhammattspurs » Thu 07 Dec 2017, 3:39 pm

The only reason for buying these (again) is for the HMV prints. Personally, i'd rather just go into HMV and give them a tenner for the prints
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