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#181 Post by Janet Street-Porter »

Zeus On The Loose wrote: The fact that the Spice Girls had a massive impact on pop culture is beyond any doubt and whether it was good or bad is really quite irrelevant and highly subjective.
But you are arguing that The Beatles are more comparable to the Spice Girls simply because of the impact they had on pop culture and whereas The Beatles might inspire somebody to do something creative, The Spice Girls were only ever likely to inspire a girl to marry a footballer or pretend she was twenty-one when she was forty.

The greatest pop acts don't have to be popular; you frequently champion Ms. Stevens and yet she can barely get her singles in the top ten. Annie, far more sexy than the Spice Girls put together and multiplied to the power of infinity, is an underground phenomenon.

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#182 Post by One of the crowd »

Zeus On The Loose wrote:
Why was John Lennon's solo career such a flop?
Did Yoko Ono have anything to do with it?

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#183 Post by Zeus On The Loose »

re:dVTB

And so do the Spice Girls.

End of.
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#184 Post by dVTB »

Zeus On The Loose wrote:re:dVTB

And so do the Spice Girls.

End of.
In your fantasy pop world where Kylie and Rachel Stevens are the creative queens, "Wannabe" and "Viva Forever" are indeed major achievements...


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#185 Post by Zeus On The Loose »

Janet Street-Porter wrote:
Zeus On The Loose wrote: The fact that the Spice Girls had a massive impact on pop culture is beyond any doubt and whether it was good or bad is really quite irrelevant and highly subjective.
But you are arguing that The Beatles are more comparable to the Spice Girls simply because of the impact they had on pop culture and whereas The Beatles might inspire somebody to do something creative, The Spice Girls were only ever likely to inspire a girl to marry a footballer or pretend she was twenty-one when she was forty.

The greatest pop acts don't have to be popular; you frequently champion Ms. Stevens and yet she can barely get her singles in the top ten. Annie, far more sexy than the Spice Girls put together and multiplied to the power of infinity, is an underground phenomenon.
Again, it doesn't matter what the Spice Girls inspired their fans with, it's the fact that they had the biggest pop cultural impact since the Beatles (or at least since Madonna) that makes them comparable. Also, you can't know what they actually inspired their fans with. I'm sure people in their 40's and 50's back when the Beatles happened said they inspire people to grow long hair and look queer and use drugs and slack off work.

You lot are always replying to me as if I'm standing up for the Spice Girls which I am simply not doing because I never liked them and was releaved when they went away. But that doesn't mean I'm unable to acknowledge their impact, despite my not liking them. You lot can't. And therein lies the difference...

I have nothing to else to say about this matter.
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#186 Post by Zeus On The Loose »

dVTB wrote:
Zeus On The Loose wrote:re:dVTB

And so do the Spice Girls.

End of.
In your fantasy pop world where Kylie and Rachel Stevens are the creative queens, "Wannabe" and "Viva Forever" are indeed major achievements...


... by mister Stennard and Rowe.
Err, yeah, the pop world is defined by what the people don't buy and not what the people buy. And people in 30 years will remember Royksopp, Annie and No Time For Tears and not Can't Get You Out Of My Head and It's A Sin :roll:

Ironically, if I was a kid/teen in the 60's, I would have probably been a Beatles fan, whereas you dVTB dear, would have hated them and would have been a fan of someone obscure noone remembers today.
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#187 Post by Flaffer »

Zeus On The Loose wrote:
thomashenry wrote:
Zeus On The Loose wrote: (Elvis, Little Stevens, American harmony bands of the 50's).
I can only assume Little Stevens is a nickname for Rachel Stevens?? (she is only 5'2" or so). As great as Rachel is, she does in fact post-date the Beatles!

Little Richard on the other hand....
She may be pint-sized but her influence in pop culture is difficult to ignore.
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#188 Post by Janet Street-Porter »

Zeus On The Loose wrote:I have nothing to else to say about this matter.
And I, my lord, may I say nothing?

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#189 Post by dVTB »

Zeus On The Loose wrote:Err, yeah, the pop world is defined by what the people don't buy and not what the people buy. And people in 30 years will remember Royksopp, Annie and No Time For Tears and not Can't Get You Out Of My Head and It's A Sin :roll:

Ironically, if I was a kid/teen in the 60's, I would have probably been a Beatles fan, whereas you dVTB dear, would have hated them and would have been a fan of someone obscure noone remembers today.
Then why are you a Pet Shop Boys fan? They're totally forgotten, remember?

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#190 Post by Zeus On The Loose »

I don't care, it's you who claims that longevity, sales, being remembered after decades and selling records years after their release means that a band's good. And anyway, PSB are not obscure, they're a mega commercial pop band on a major label that are simply down the dumper because they are not as good as they used to be.
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#191 Post by Janet Street-Porter »

Anyway, aren't Status Quo brilliant? The way they've constantly reinvented themselves and defined the pop landscape. They were even too avant-garde for Radio 1.

Far more important than either The Beatles or Spice Girls; were either of them in Coronation Street? Like f**k they were.

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#192 Post by Zeus On The Loose »

No, but Chris was on Neighbours so he must enjoy the same iconic status as The Quo.
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#193 Post by madhatter88 »

Zeus On The Loose wrote:I don't care, it's you who claims that longevity, sales, being remembered after decades and selling records years after their release means that a band's good. And anyway, PSB are not obscure, they're a mega commercial pop band on a major label that are simply down the dumper because they are not as good as they used to be.
They have been down the dumper for an awful long time...

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#194 Post by Hmmm »

One of the crowd wrote:
Zeus On The Loose wrote:
Why was John Lennon's solo career such a flop?
Did Yoko Ono have anything to do with it?

Do I win £5?
No thats a myth and John had a couple of number 1's before he was shot dead and quite a few after thats not bad for a solo career more than lame duck Gary Barlow...where is he working is it Big Mac.
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#195 Post by Janet Street-Porter »

Zeus On The Loose wrote:No, but Chris was on Neighbours so he must enjoy the same iconic status as The Quo.
Yes, but PSB suffer by comparison because Neil has never managed to write a song about a famous artist despite all the time he's spent hanging around the White Cube.

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