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Re: PSB vs Daft Punk

Posted: Tue 23 Feb 2021, 1:19 pm
by retrofuturist
Greetings,

They had some good singles, but not a lot off their albums really did it for me. Digital Love always seemed a bit of an under-rated gem.

And since this is supposedly as "vs PSB" topic, I'll just say that Daft Punk were pretty schmick with the production skills and knob-twiddling, but not so good on the lyrics, chords and melodies of Pet Shop Boys. If "Time On My Hands" were a collaboration with Daft Punk, I think that would have fulfilled its potential better.

Retro. :)

Re: PSB vs Daft Punk

Posted: Tue 23 Feb 2021, 2:00 pm
by PopKid78
I wonder if they ever did ask Daft Punk to remix a single.


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Re: PSB vs Daft Punk

Posted: Tue 23 Feb 2021, 3:27 pm
by PSBForTheMasses

Re: PSB vs Daft Punk

Posted: Tue 23 Feb 2021, 3:40 pm
by Spittingcat
Oooo.... I want to hear that done properly now!


EDIT: not a criticism of the person who created that mashup... just that they didn't have a clean dry source for the vocals.

Re: PSB vs Daft Punk

Posted: Tue 23 Feb 2021, 4:06 pm
by Future Lover
@PSBForTheMasses great job! The vocals were always the worst part of "Within".

Re: PSB vs Daft Punk

Posted: Thu 04 Mar 2021, 12:22 am
by geowayne
This is just my opinion -- and I'm terribly biased, of course -- but I've never understood how some (many?) critics' polls have rated Daft Punk higher than PSB (as they have indeed done at times) by virtue of ANY reckoning. Yes, I like some things Daft Punk have done, but they simply can't compare to PSB in terms of overall sustained quality, output, imagination, influence, lyrics, songcraft, … you name it. To me it's like saying cheesecake is better than French cuisine -- or, if you don't care for French cuisine yourself, substitute whatever national cuisine *is* your overall favorite.

Re: PSB vs Daft Punk

Posted: Thu 04 Mar 2021, 12:52 am
by Gabby
geowayne wrote: Thu 04 Mar 2021, 12:22 am This is just my opinion -- and I'm terribly biased, of course -- but I've never understood how some (many?) critics' polls have rated Daft Punk higher than PSB (as they have indeed done at times) by virtue of ANY reckoning. Yes, I like some things Daft Punk have done, but they simply can't compare to PSB in terms of overall sustained quality, output, imagination, influence, lyrics, songcraft, … you name it. To me it's like saying cheesecake is better than French cuisine -- or, if you don't care for French cuisine yourself, substitute whatever national cuisine *is* your overall favorite.
Eloquently put. 100% agree, and no I think bias has little to do with it actually.

Re: PSB vs Daft Punk

Posted: Thu 04 Mar 2021, 2:43 am
by PSBForTheMasses
geowayne wrote: Thu 04 Mar 2021, 12:22 am This is just my opinion -- and I'm terribly biased, of course -- but I've never understood how some (many?) critics' polls have rated Daft Punk higher than PSB (as they have indeed done at times) by virtue of ANY reckoning. Yes, I like some things Daft Punk have done, but they simply can't compare to PSB in terms of overall sustained quality, output, imagination, influence, lyrics, songcraft, … you name it. To me it's like saying cheesecake is better than French cuisine -- or, if you don't care for French cuisine yourself, substitute whatever national cuisine *is* your overall favorite.
Ahh couldn't say better :)

Re: PSB vs Daft Punk

Posted: Thu 04 Mar 2021, 11:05 am
by G_Goalden
Thats a great re-interpretation. I love it when PSB songs are reimagined like this - especially when it involves a piano (How can you expect to be taken seriously?, London).

I’ve love a four song set in the tour where they did this with some of their songs. Ones you wouldn’t expect So Hard, Can You Forgive Her, Opportunities.

Just to keep this on thread - yeh Daft Punk are over-rated. I own that popular album - the one with One More Time on it - and listed again recently. Hardly earth shattering - and nowhere near the likes of chemical brother, Orbital underworld.

Re: PSB vs Daft Punk

Posted: Thu 04 Mar 2021, 11:40 am
by Future Lover
It's just the rockist attitude really - they were electronic producers slash rockstars. Several of their song had this seriously aggressive vibe, such as "Rollin' and Scratchin'" and the entire "Human After All" album. Not to mention the best one of all - "Aerodynamic", which used electric guitar in a manner similar to a string instrument. Listening to their live albums, you can tell it's more of an aggressive beat compared to their more contemplative works. The 2007 tour being the spectacle that it was is probably the reason for the reverence. The Boys never really had that. And you can tell how Justice, another French band, recognized this and made it a defining characteristic of their whole approach.
After being a fan for many years, yet recognizing some of their flaws, I've had enough once the confetti from "Random Access Memories" were cleaned and I realized what a bunch of hot air it all was. A pure antithesis to why electronic and disco music was necessary - it was instead an attempt to transplant it into macho rockist attitudes once again and spray it with a sheen of masculine cool. It was Disco Demolition Night in album form, this time as appropriation.

Re: PSB vs Daft Punk

Posted: Thu 04 Mar 2021, 2:20 pm
by One of the crowd
I had their early 12" singles they issued on SOMA and I was fortunate enough to see Daft Punk support The Chemical Brothers in October 1995 at The Astoria (the same gig Keith Flint got on stage and tripped the main power lead).

It was raw, fresh and then they released Homework..BOOM!

Discovery is also a fantastic album and I love their cut up's of Manilow vocals etc but upon release of Robot Rock it was all downhill for me

There's a couple of tracks from RAM I like but thats about it.

The solo stuff Bangalter put out on Roule is better than Daft Punk IMO

They wont really be missed in this household.

Re: PSB vs Daft Punk

Posted: Fri 05 Mar 2021, 12:17 am
by londonnoise
There was a fantastic article on popbitch.com about how the robot masks meant they could send just about anyone to personal appearances for hundreds of thousands of dollars while they stayed home. I actually think that's fantastic if it's true!
At the same time, they created so much good music and I'll miss them.

Re: PSB vs Daft Punk

Posted: Fri 05 Mar 2021, 2:12 am
by glennjridge
What always got me is I really enjoyed the dude who did the singing in the group on songs such as digital love and something about us and much preferred him over the farmed out hired singers they used. yet they didnt seem to want to fully explore than instead doing alot of instrumental stuff and outside singers. but I never could have gotten into them as much as the PSB.

Re: PSB vs Daft Punk

Posted: Sat 06 Mar 2021, 9:30 pm
by One of the crowd
glennjridge wrote: Fri 05 Mar 2021, 2:12 am What always got me is I really enjoyed the dude who did the singing in the group on songs such as digital love and something about us and much preferred him over the farmed out hired singers they used. yet they didnt seem to want to fully explore than instead doing alot of instrumental stuff and outside singers. but I never could have gotten into them as much as the PSB.
Unless I'm mistaken, it was Daft Punk themselves singing on Digital Love and Something About Us

Re: PSB vs Daft Punk

Posted: Sun 07 Mar 2021, 11:56 pm
by glennjridge
Yep. thats what I was saying, I like the Daft Punk dudes voice. kinda high and reedy like neils, but they never really put as much production into his voice unlike Neil's which sounds warm and glorious on all the albums.