Did the PSB website change?

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Re: Did the PSB website change?

#16 Post by Dog »

daveid wrote:The thought occurs that their entire catalogue might now be under one banner and that x2 is now part of it.
It would certainly make managing the back catalogue easier, rather than licensing certain tracks backwards and forwards.
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#17 Post by Propertius »

When the Boys left Parlophone in 2013 the music business was moribund. Nobody wanted to invest even in the big companies. Now there’s a Vogue for music investments because streaming has matured enough that it seems clear what the revenue flows will look like over the long term, and even though music is a low-growth industry, it appears to be stable and predictable, which certain classes of investors prefer over high-growth, high-risk. The value of legacy acts is that they’re work is the most predictable asset (to be quite crass about it—“Opportunities,” anyone? “Shopping”?). Reliable declines in revenue are still ok, as the predictability is what counts.

Keep in mind there are usually three types of rights in the catalogue: producer rights, songwriter rights, and rights to the recording itself. Parlo owned some, maybe all, of the pre-1990 recording rights, may have owned some post-1990 rights, but the Boys have, as far as I know, always owned the publishing (songwriter) rights. But companies like Merck Mercurial is’ s have lately been buying those songwriter rights, in Merck’s case for about 13x the one-year revenue value. In other words, it’s selling your ownership outright for 13 years’ revenue in advance (and then nothing). For older acts more money in their 60s and 70s may seem more attractive than continual revenue into their 80s and 90s, at which ages nobody wants to be worried about managing intellectual property. Ironically, with an upfront payment from a low-growth, low-risk music company, an artist who’s comfortable enough can put the money into a high-growth, riskier asset and make out much better than the investors in the now company-owner catalogue. Risk has its rewards.

But all of this is speculation about the Boys and the new website copyright. Maybe they e just gone back to a regular record company deal without selling the song rights—though songs are such a comparatively hot commodity right now that I do suspect a rights sale has happened. A lot of established acts have been doing this.

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#18 Post by Suburban_Boy »

Speaking of music investments, "Primary Wave Acquires Catalog of ‘September’ Songwriter Allee Willis".
Also included in the catalog are such songs as “Neutron Dance” by the Pointer Sisters, “What Have I Done to Deserve This?” by the Pet Shop Boys and Dusty Springfield, and “I’ll Be There for You” by the Rembrandts, which was made famous when it became the theme song for the long-running sitcom “Friends.”
https://variety.com/2020/music/news/pri ... 234777501/

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Suburban_Boy wrote: Mon 21 Sep 2020, 3:41 pm Speaking of music investments, "Primary Wave Acquires Catalog of ‘September’ Songwriter Allee Willis".
Also included in the catalog are such songs as “Neutron Dance” by the Pointer Sisters, “What Have I Done to Deserve This?” by the Pet Shop Boys and Dusty Springfield, and “I’ll Be There for You” by the Rembrandts, which was made famous when it became the theme song for the long-running sitcom “Friends.”
https://variety.com/2020/music/news/pri ... 234777501/
There it is then. The Boys must have had some say in that, and wouldn't just handover the keys to that stone cold classic on a whim.

More to this than meets the eye surely?

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#20 Post by hotspotnot »

Warner are listed on their Christmas emails. I've found their 2015 and 2017 emails in my gmail and they say "sent by Warner Music Group". I've also found the email announcing Super and that says the same.

I think this is a red herring and means nothing more than Warner managing their website, email comms and probably their social media too.
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