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Re: What would you think a future PSB's album should sound like in order to reinvent themselves?

#76 Post by Gabby »

tottenhammattspurs wrote:
Sat 20 Jun 2020, 6:36 pm
Elysium is the Behaviour of the 21st century. In another 12 years you’ll realise just how good it actually is.
For my money Hotspot is a better contender for that accolade. It just doesn't have a "Being Boring" but other than that it's solid IMHO.

Elysium though is definitely a grower not a show-er and will be re-evaluated fondly in years to come I have no doubt.

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Gabby wrote:
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NotInvisible wrote:
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glennjridge wrote:
Fri 19 Jun 2020, 1:17 am
Elysium, looking back on it....the lyrics are a passable set of Tennant lyrics. but I think the real problem is there is alot of uninspired music.
Memory of the future,hold on,everything means something,your early stuff,winner,ego music.

while I know some will say they LOVE some of them, I think most would agree for 1 album...thats alot of clinkers to have.
I don't think I'd consider much of that "uninspired" really. That's a label I'd apply to A Red Letter Day and much of Nightlife.

Memory of the Future is the Pet Shop Boys doing ABBA, and I think on any other album it wouldn't get as much flack. It's basically the equivalent of something like Tonight Is Forever or Shopping, which are placeholder album tracks of similar caliber. But it seems anything prior to '94 is bulletproof in many fans' eyes. Something like A New Life would get absolutely slated if it had come out on Elysium, and let's not even pretend otherwise.

Hold On is great IMO. It's unlike anything they've ever done, and I think it's lovely. As a Nightlife b-side we'd all be raving about it. I appreciate the sentiment isn't very PSB but then again, what could be worse than holding them to a stereotype.

Everything Means Something is skippable. But again it's new territory for them, so I'm not sure "uninspired" is accurate, and its not like they don't have tracks of this quality on other albums.

Your Early Stuff is a stone cold classic that absolutely shines in every regard. I remain convinced this track will be rediscovered down the road and eventually be held up with Leaving and Invisible - a trio of songs that fans would be lauding if only they had been on Behaviour (likewise move It's Only The Wind, To Face The Truth, My October Symphony, Nervously or The End Of The World to Elysium and the some of the same people who call them masterpieces now would be moaning about them.

Winner may be uninspired in the sense that it's perfect pop for another group, which PSB can knock out in their sleep. It doesn't cover new ground (bar the optimism) and like most, I find the album version terrible as a Pet Shop Boys release. But it's actually a solid pop song - the instrumental and the HappySad mix both confirm this - and I maintain it would have been a hit for Take That.

Ego Music is awful but "uninspired" it ain't. There's nothing like it.

Long story short - the fans are unadventurous morons, and listening to them is the absolute last thing Neil and Chris should ever do. :)
Elysium is totally underrated. It achieves what the Boys set out to do by capturing a West Coast vibe. I can imagine myself on a beach or by a pool in LA with a drink listening to this and loving it.

I gotta agree that the fans who deride this album just arent grasping how well crafted and different this album is.
The flip side of that is that there are some fans (not you I’m sure) who cannot see that PSB have some duff work in their canon. I don’t dislike all of Elysium, but it’s one of my least favourite and with the exception of 3 songs, even after 8 years, it’s no better.
Please don’t tar fans as not appreciating craft / different (or as another member put it ‘unadventurous morons’, which says more about the original poster really). I am allowed not to like an album for the basic reason I don’t like the majority of the songs on there. Hotspot is better at achieving the vibe they wanted I think.
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Pod wrote:
Sun 21 Jun 2020, 12:09 am
Please don’t tar fans as not appreciating craft / different (or as another member put it ‘unadventurous morons’, which says more about the original poster really).
It says what I think about the tedious fans who can't understand that the imperial phase ended 35 years ago, anyway.

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NotInvisible wrote:
Sun 21 Jun 2020, 12:30 am
Pod wrote:
Sun 21 Jun 2020, 12:09 am
Please don’t tar fans as not appreciating craft / different (or as another member put it ‘unadventurous morons’, which says more about the original poster really).
It says what I think about the tedious fans who can't understand that the imperial phase ended 35 years ago, anyway.
Have you watched the title of this topic?.

Guitars are by no means a new thing.

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Nickname wrote:
Sun 21 Jun 2020, 2:35 pm
Guitars are by no means a new thing.
Neither are synths.

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#81 Post by Debussy »

James Ford has produced Jessie Ware's new album 'What's Your Pleasure?'. A sublime pop album that nods to many artists and references, yet sounds contemporary.
He has beautifully combined electronics with elegant orchestration and production, not a million miles from PSB. Listen to 'The Kill', the intro could be a PSB song.

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#82 Post by mole973102 »

As long as it isn't...

I don't wanna go out [cough, cough, cough!], I don't wanna go dancing...
You gotta have fun!

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#83 Post by glennjridge »

How about a sleazy album. just filled with dark techno, you know like they keep threatening to put out.
no bright poppy songs, just heavy techno like fluorescent, inner sanctum, former enfant etc etc with dark lyrics. pounding bass, ravey synths.
I dont think they have done that in awhile.

but then again, I dont think they can help themselves. I think they have to create beautiful music.

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#84 Post by Future Lover »

Debussy wrote:
Mon 29 Jun 2020, 2:10 pm
James Ford has produced Jessie Ware's new album 'What's Your Pleasure?'. A sublime pop album that nods to many artists and references, yet sounds contemporary.
He has beautifully combined electronics with elegant orchestration and production, not a million miles from PSB. Listen to 'The Kill', the intro could be a PSB song.
Fantastic suggestion, I could see this working. I adore Jessie too!

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#85 Post by vincenzosz »

I have always wanted a PSB hip hop album. A nod to their early stuff but with a modern hip hop flavour. I think their take on that could be a lot of fun.

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#86 Post by markrobertnolan »

They were doing a fine job of reinvention with Electric and Super (both in my top 5 now.) Alas Hotspit is back to “meh” territory

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#87 Post by PopKid78 »

Debussy wrote:James Ford has produced Jessie Ware's new album 'What's Your Pleasure?'. A sublime pop album that nods to many artists and references, yet sounds contemporary.
He has beautifully combined electronics with elegant orchestration and production, not a million miles from PSB. Listen to 'The Kill', the intro could be a PSB song.
Fantastic Album. Definite contender for Album of the year, there’s not a bad song on it.


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