Stuart Price Trilogy Top/Worse 5 (2013-2020)

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Re: Stuart Price Trilogy Top/Worse 5 (2013-2020)

#31 Post by CroMagnon » Thu 30 Jan 2020, 12:13 pm

Sticking only to album tracks:

Best (no particular order)

Hoping for a miracle
The Dictator Decides
Fluorescent
Will-o-the-wisp
Into thin air

Individually worst, although some of them work in the context of the albums:

Happiness
Wedding in Berlin
Shouting in the evening
Pazzo!
Dreamland
Love comes quickly, but is a catastrophe and a bourgeois construct etc.

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Re: Stuart Price Trilogy Top/Worse 5 (2013-2020)

#32 Post by rojak » Thu 30 Jan 2020, 1:06 pm

Best 5
Vocal
Fluorescent
Hoping for a miracle
Twenty-something
Will-o-the-wisp

runners up - Inside a dream, Bolshy


Worst 5
Axis
Shouting in the evening
Wedding in Berlin
I don't wanna
Pazzo

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Re: Stuart Price Trilogy Top/Worse 5 (2013-2020)

#33 Post by rashomon » Thu 30 Jan 2020, 2:12 pm

Current thinking - no particular order and album tracks only

Best

Vocal
Pop Kids
Dictator
Will-o-the-wisp
Hoping for a miracle

Worst

Axis
Shouting in the Evening
Happiness
Pazzo
Groovy

Edit: changed my list twice in two minutes! :lol:
you could say conventional ... and I could claim intentional

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Re: Stuart Price Trilogy Top/Worse 5 (2013-2020)

#34 Post by cupoftea » Thu 30 Jan 2020, 5:34 pm

Best

Inside a dream
Hoping for a miracle
Happy people
Say it to me
Into thin air

Worst!

Love is a Bourgeois Construct
Thursday
Bolshy
Vocal
The last to die

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Re: Stuart Price Trilogy Top/Worse 5 (2013-2020)

#35 Post by Gary1962 » Thu 30 Jan 2020, 6:53 pm

The Good

1.The Dictator Decides
2. Love Is A Bourgeois Construct
3. Burning The Heather
4. Undertow
5. Hoping For A Miracle

The Bad

1. Monkey Business
2. Wedding In Berlin
3. Happiness
4. The Pop Kids
5. Get It Online

The Ugly

1. Shouting In The Evening
2. Bolshy
3. Pazzo!
4. Groovy
5. Dreamland
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Re: Stuart Price Trilogy Top/Worse 5 (2013-2020)

#36 Post by Tom Angel » Thu 30 Jan 2020, 8:18 pm

Best (no particular order)

Hoping for a miracle
The Dictator Decides
Fluorescent
Undertow
Inside a dream
Thursday + Pop Kids

Worst

Happiness
Wedding in Berlin
Shouting in the evening
Say it to me
in suits or sequins/or twin sets and pearls

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Re: Stuart Price Trilogy Top/Worse 5 (2013-2020)

#37 Post by Drem » Thu 30 Jan 2020, 8:51 pm

I think it's too early to pick anything because this 'time period" (don't want to call that "an era") is far from conclusion. There will be couple of singles/b-sides forthcoming, and maybe Price will be at helm of rumored "Disco 5" production as well. And everyone's opinion about virtually any song from new album tends to change over time. But so far...

Best tracks are:
"Love is a bourgeois construct"
"Vocal"
"The dictator decides"
"Undertow"
"An open mind"

Worst tracks are:
"Bolshy" (not terribly bad but mediocre, a definition of album filler)
"Get it online" (an exercise in nonsense - damn, I almost hate this thing!)
"Pazzo!" (throwaways should stays throwaways)
"The dead can dance" (endless repetition of banal lyrics over very primitive instrumental)
"One-hit wonder" (funny but not necessary to have track, to be honest)

Missed opportunities for singles (not counting "Hotspot", obviously):
"Last to die" (instead of "Fluorescent")
"Burn" (instead of "Twenty something")
"An open mind" (great track for 4th Greatest Hits compilation, well, it could be...)
"I think it’s an amazingly good album, I’ve got to be honest with you. It’s one of the albums I feel most proud of. But for people who don’t really know us, and have a sort of an idea about us, ‘Electric’ is more what the Pet Shop Boys are meant to be."
(Neil Tennant, speaking about "Elysium" on the eve of "Electric" release.)

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Re: Stuart Price Trilogy Top/Worse 5 (2013-2020)

#38 Post by canveyboy » Thu 30 Jan 2020, 11:12 pm

Lleonard Pler wrote:
Thu 30 Jan 2020, 11:26 am
Eleven wrote:
Thu 30 Jan 2020, 2:57 am
If the Boys give to whatever producer a song like Shouting in the evening, to name one, what can you do ? Its easier task to have Vocal and you only have to throw some sounds and rythms..
Stuart is a great producer but I find unfair judging songwriting from production
I disagree. Listen to Vocal demo and you will notice the magic of Stuart Price work, elevating a random song to an epic theme that was able to close their concerts in a high note like it was any of their classics.
I actually think the demo for Vocal pi$$es over the Price production. For me the original demo is pure PSB, everything I love about them! It’s melodic, synthy and brilliant. Price turned it into a tuneless trance waste of space! That’s just my opinion and shows how we all like/dislike different things in their music!
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Re: Stuart Price Trilogy Top/Worse 5 (2013-2020)

#39 Post by Patrick Bateman » Thu 30 Jan 2020, 11:58 pm

My top four from the albums only. Too hard to pick a fifth as there are too many candidates.

Inside a Dream
Love is a Bourgeois Construct
Only the Dark
The Pop Kids

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Re: Stuart Price Trilogy Top/Worse 5 (2013-2020)

#40 Post by Bjossi » Fri 31 Jan 2020, 6:31 pm

Way too many good ones to pick just 5 from but I'll try.

My favourites:
Axis, Inside a dream, Inner sanctum, Burn, Decide

Almost made it to the top:
Love is a bourgeois construct, Fluorescent, Shouting in the evening, Happiness, Pazzo, No boundaries, Will-o-the-wisp, Only the dark

Ehhh, ok I guess:
Last to die, Thursday, Twenty-something, Into thin air, Dreamland, Burning the heather

My least favourites:
Bolshy, Vocal, One-hit wonder, Undertow, You are the one

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Re: Stuart Price Trilogy Top/Worse 5 (2013-2020)

#41 Post by leesmapman » Fri 31 Jan 2020, 7:03 pm

One-hit wonder is not a Stuart Price production.

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Re: Stuart Price Trilogy Top/Worse 5 (2013-2020)

#42 Post by BoyStrange » Fri 31 Jan 2020, 7:59 pm

So which b-sides are produced by Price?

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Re: Stuart Price Trilogy Top/Worse 5 (2013-2020)

#43 Post by Future Lover » Fri 31 Jan 2020, 8:42 pm

Entschuldigung!
Get it online
In bits
Left to my own devices [Super Version]
An open mind
Decide

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Re: Stuart Price Trilogy Top/Worse 5 (2013-2020)

#44 Post by Dog » Sat 01 Feb 2020, 9:48 am

Future Lover wrote:Entschuldigung!
Get it online
In bits
Left to my own devices [Super Version]
An open mind
Decide
Plus the Brits Medley, arguably.
Woof.

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Re: Stuart Price Trilogy Top/Worse 5 (2013-2020)

#45 Post by the8thark » Thu 06 Feb 2020, 2:51 pm

I'll stick to the 3 albums here.

My Best 5

1. Love is a Bourgeois Construct
2. Axis
3. Burn
4. You Are The One
5. Will O Wisp

My Worst 5

1. Wedding in Berlin
2. Pazzo!
3. Vocal
4. Monkey Business
5. Into Thin Air

Bourgeois gets a special mention as in my opinion it's the last truly great song the PSB have ever recorded. To me it's so much better than anything else on the three albums.
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