Album closers / final track - do you have a favourite?

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Re: Album closers / final track - do you have a favourite?

#46 Post by retrofuturist » Mon 03 Feb 2020, 3:09 am

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Bjossi wrote:
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Integral is the last track on the main album, thus it closes it. Doesn't matter if it is a bonus track or not (it isn't).
Indeed - it isn't.... and I can only imagine that someone's getting their Integrals and Fugitives mixed up to suggest it in the first place.

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#47 Post by Massimo Osti » Mon 03 Feb 2020, 9:28 pm

'Its Alright'

I start 4 out of 5 working days with that to gee me up.

Closely followed by 'Kings Cross'.

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#48 Post by PSBForTheMasses » Sat 08 Feb 2020, 6:33 pm

1. Surely King's Cross
2. Integral
3. Go West
4. Why don't we live together?
5. Vocal.

I just skip the rest but the most boring one should be Saturday Night Forever closely followed by the long version of It's Alright from Introspective (the single version is one of my favourites to be honest).

Edit: Does "one thing leads to another" count? If it counts, it would comfortably sit at number two, competing head to head with King's Cross, it is such a majestic piece of beauty,

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#49 Post by bongsteve » Sat 08 Feb 2020, 7:27 pm

While not an album per se, I think the forgotten child is a fantastic closer and quite honestly, would have been a great closer for Hotspot (yes, I know, different producer) with that fantastic last minute of the track.

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#50 Post by jasonjohn » Sun 09 Feb 2020, 1:15 am

bongsteve wrote:
Sat 08 Feb 2020, 7:27 pm
While not an album per se, I think the forgotten child is a fantastic closer and quite honestly, would have been a great closer for Hotspot (yes, I know, different producer) with that fantastic last minute of the track.
It's definately the stronger track but probably wouldn't fit thematically with Hotspot

The Price era is pretty much a period of "going out partying or finding love" songs. Not too much at the deep end. Probably The Last To Die is the strongest there.

I sometimes wonder if they let Agenda brew a bit longer if Hotspot could of become a second Fundamental, but maybe the trilogy wasn't suited to too much levity.

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#51 Post by the8thark » Sun 09 Feb 2020, 6:37 am

Here's my opinions on the actual album closers based on this ranking system. Taking into account the track individually and how well or not the track is as an album finisher.

3 - Amazing
2 - Pretty good
1 - Very average or not good at all
0 - Should not exist or be on the album. Listen to it once then remove it permanently from your PSB rotation.

Why Should We Live Together - 2
King's Cross - 3
It's Alright - 1
Jealousy - 3
Go West - 2
One Thing Leads To Another - 2
Saturday Night Forever - 2
Footsteps - 3
You Choose - 1
Integral - 2
Legacy - 0
Requiem in Leopardshin - 3
Vocal - 0
Into Thin Air - 0
Wedding in Berlin - 0

Some explanations

Go West is a great cover but I just don't think it's fit to be an album ender. Possibly Theatre could work as the ending track here.

Integral is one of my favourite PSB songs. However the album ended with Indefinite Leave To Remain in my opinion. Integral just feels tacked on at the end. Integral would have been better at a track somewhere in the middle of Fundamental.

Legacy is so bad it brings the legacy of PSB into disrepute. (No pun intended). The Way It Used To Be is an amazing track and a true album ender. Why the PSB decided to screw up by creating Legacy, I don't know.

Elysium is good in this regard as the PSB didn't screw up the album by tacking on something after the obvious album ending track.

Vocal is polarising. Many people really like it, many don't.

Hotspot musically is all over the place. Though I do think Burning the Heather would be ok as an ending track. Lyrically it's similar to Vocal as it's the Neil singing about themselves (PSB) as musicians. Wedding in Berlin, sure it's growing on some people but honestly Hotspot wothout it would be way better.
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#52 Post by rashomon » Sun 09 Feb 2020, 8:56 am

Vocal is polarising?

Really? ... thought it was generally regarded as a late classic.
you could say conventional ... and I could claim intentional

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#53 Post by PSBForTheMasses » Sun 09 Feb 2020, 9:25 am

rashomon wrote:
Sun 09 Feb 2020, 8:56 am
Vocal is polarising?

Really? ... thought it was generally regarded as a late classic.
Vocal is a strane case.
IMHO, the instrumental Vocal was one of the best things they have done since...well, Imperial Phase. But with Neil's vocals in it, it fails miserably. And I usually skip instrumentals and love Neil's voice.

I am an addict for this version but never listen to the album version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaiyXudo6PM

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#54 Post by Future Lover » Sun 09 Feb 2020, 9:37 am

Yes, Vocal was voted among the Top 5 best tracks since PopArt on another forum. Just because some people say it doesn't make it true.

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#55 Post by jasonjohn » Sun 09 Feb 2020, 2:36 pm

Let's face it, their whole career is polarising for fans. Half of us want ballads, the other wants bangers. And yet another half want banging ballads. Some want nuisance, some want electric starkness. Some want the European Union, some want to close down restaurants because there's no one to peel the potatoes.

Some want Left To My Own Devices, some greatly prefer What Keeps Mankind Alive? (Ok, maybe it's just one person).

PSB are two or three careers in one. If they were authors, they could of fitted in a couple of Richard Bachmans, if you know what I mean.

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#56 Post by the8thark » Sun 09 Feb 2020, 3:36 pm

Future Lover wrote:
Sun 09 Feb 2020, 9:37 am
Yes, Vocal was voted among the Top 5 best tracks since PopArt on another forum. Just because some people say it doesn't make it true.
That's the exact point. People either think of it as really good or really bad. Very few people think Vocal is average or forgettable.
It's a really love it or really hate it track.
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#57 Post by glennjridge » Sun 09 Feb 2020, 4:02 pm

I think my fav closing song would be saturday night forever. I never got why this song isnt more popular with the fanbase at least.
it sounds like it could have been on fundamental/nightlife how it mixes electronics with real world instruments like those wonderful horns.

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#58 Post by PSBForTheMasses » Sun 09 Feb 2020, 4:21 pm

jasonjohn wrote:
Sun 09 Feb 2020, 2:36 pm
Let's face it, their whole career is polarising for fans. Half of us want ballads, the other wants bangers. And yet another half want banging ballads. Some want nuisance, some want electric starkness. Some want the European Union, some want to close down restaurants because there's no one to peel the potatoes.

Some want Left To My Own Devices, some greatly prefer What Keeps Mankind Alive? (Ok, maybe it's just one person).

PSB are two or three careers in one. If they were authors, they could of fitted in a couple of Richard Bachmans, if you know what I mean.
Ah, I smell a Stephen King fan here :D Great, great :)

I actually think they have given us a lot more than "enough", but it wouldn't hurt if they made another "Always On My Mind" or Actually :)

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#59 Post by Spittingcat » Sun 09 Feb 2020, 4:25 pm

I am an addict for this version
I am as well. But I also love the demo.

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#60 Post by Pod » Sun 09 Feb 2020, 6:55 pm

Here’s mine using the8thark’s code:

3 - Amazing
2 - Pretty good
1 - Very average or not good at all
0 - Should not exist or be on the album. Listen to it once then remove it permanently from your PSB rotation.

Why Don’t We Live Together? - 3
King's Cross - 3
It's Alright - 2
Jealousy - 2
Go West - 2
One Thing Leads To Another - 2
Saturday Night Forever - 1
Footsteps - 1
You Choose - 1
Integral - 2
Legacy - 0
Requiem in Denim and Leopardskin - 2
Vocal - 3
Into Thin Air - 2
Wedding in Berlin - 0

I offer no explanations as I don’t want to!
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