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Re: New EP in April: Agenda

#571 Post by leesmapman » Thu 21 Feb 2019, 7:18 pm

Pop music on TV? Not in my country

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#572 Post by alig » Thu 21 Feb 2019, 7:30 pm

Kevinthehorse wrote:
Tue 19 Feb 2019, 3:23 pm
When the EP was first announced I have to admit my heart sank. Political songs are all well and good but without subtlely it's easy to alienate anyone who doesn't share your viewpoint, so as a confirmed Brexit voter, GSAC came across to me as childish "metropoltican elite" whining.

Happily once I'd heard the songs I changed my mind - GSAC is still the weakest of the 4 tracks but OSM and WAWGDATR are as lively and confident as anything the boys have done in recent years.

The biggest disappintment of all is how little impact the release has made in the mainstream media. You'd think "synthpop legends release topical new EP" would be major news but I've heard very little on the radio in the papers or on TV about Agenda, whiel thousands of column inches are devoted to reality TV nonetities and genreric rap and R&B acts.
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Re: New EP in April: Agenda

#573 Post by Mark R.Y. » Thu 21 Feb 2019, 9:04 pm

National Review has an essay:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/02/ ... -contempt/

"Give Stupidity a Chance" makes for a great Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez slogan. :lol:

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#574 Post by le petit corbusier » Thu 21 Feb 2019, 9:35 pm

Mark R.Y. wrote:National Review has an essay:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/02/ ... -contempt/

"Give Stupidity a Chance" makes for a great Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez slogan. Image
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... H5jPyn3SeM
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Re: New EP in April: Agenda

#575 Post by NikacP0kac » Thu 21 Feb 2019, 9:49 pm

Mark R.Y. wrote:
Thu 21 Feb 2019, 9:04 pm
National Review has an essay:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/02/ ... -contempt/

"Give Stupidity a Chance" makes for a great Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez slogan. :lol:
I didn't expect idiotic bigotry amongst the Petheads, as well. :|
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Re: New EP in April: Agenda

#576 Post by retrofuturist » Fri 22 Feb 2019, 12:16 am

How is it "bigotry" to point out someone's stupidity?

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Re: New EP in April: Agenda

#577 Post by Harry » Fri 22 Feb 2019, 12:32 pm

Mark R.Y. wrote:
Thu 21 Feb 2019, 9:04 pm
National Review has an essay:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/02/ ... -contempt/

"Give Stupidity a Chance" makes for a great Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez slogan. :lol:
I didn’t enjoy this article, it is unbelievably partisan and assumes Agenda simply must be about American politics, because it’s the National Review and surely that’s all that matters.

The author is determined to view it through his ‘wise right-leaning, sensible grown-ups versus naive, left-leaning youth all-about-America’ prism. After apparently swallowing a thesaurus and developing a chronic case of unbearably florid and pretentious writing style.

I think he’s using the ‘call them what they call us louder’ tactic, so he uses “left-wing populism” and “yoing-dumb rabble-rouser” like GOP fans use “fake news”.

‘Give stupidity a chance’ obviously makes very blatant references to Trump, but as a symptom of populism and anti-intellectualism. The song isn’t a simple anti-Trump rant to appeal to the left-leaning young. It isn’t ‘millennial’, rather it’s 65 year-old Neil swiping at the creeping acceptance and championing of boorishness and stupidity that is creeping in all over the world.

The author assumes Neil and Chris are in thrall to Corbyn and “serenading Ocasio-Cortez”, which they are not.

Agenda isn’t about US politics and it’s a mistake to read it as a “rejection of Conservative nationalism” and make assumptions about the PSBs’ (he incorrectly writes “PSB’s”) political interests.
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Re: New EP in April: Agenda

#578 Post by glennjridge » Sat 23 Feb 2019, 5:12 am

While I dont necessarily agree with a couple lyrics, I kinda like political Neil. he's topical. I'd rather he keep on that, rather than songs about pop kids or burning the disco down. but I suspect he will always do both. but boy still lovin "On Social Media". what a great track

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#579 Post by NotInvisible » Sat 23 Feb 2019, 8:04 am

Mark R.Y. wrote:
Thu 21 Feb 2019, 9:04 pm
National Review has an essay
National Review is a synecdoche for the idiocy the song criticizes, not least because nothing in the track references Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Neil is unlikely to be following the nascent career of a freshman politician an ocean away. Critical thinking skills folks, it's never too late to learn them.

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Re: New EP in April: Agenda

#580 Post by York Minster » Sat 23 Feb 2019, 8:48 am

I hope One Social Media is more the template for the next album rather than GSAC.
And tryin' to figure out what happened to 'Germaine Propaine'
"He couldn't have fell off that hard" Ain't no way
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That Canibus turned into a television evangelist"
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Re: New EP in April: Agenda

#581 Post by Ghost within this house » Sat 23 Feb 2019, 12:33 pm

York Minster wrote:
Sat 23 Feb 2019, 8:48 am
I hope One Social Media is more the template for the next album rather than GSAC.
Perhaps a remix of Integral:

One World
One Reason
Unchanging
One Social Media

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Re: New EP in April: Agenda

#582 Post by Old Soak » Tue 26 Feb 2019, 3:04 pm

Just had a thought: Do you think the E.P. title could be a cunning double-entendre and another of their sly sexual references (viz: Before): Agenda/A Gender?
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Re: New EP in April: Agenda

#583 Post by Drico One » Tue 26 Feb 2019, 8:25 pm

No, because there is nothing cunning or sly about it. Like much of the content, the title is straight down the line.

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Re: New EP in April: Agenda

#584 Post by York Minster » Wed 27 Feb 2019, 9:30 am

Boy, I sure miss the days when they did double-entendres. Like "Can't Take My Eyes Off You". Where maybe he is looking at the person, but also maybe his eyes are literally on them and Neil is having trouble removing them from their skin. Good old days.
And tryin' to figure out what happened to 'Germaine Propaine'
"He couldn't have fell off that hard" Ain't no way
"What happened to the way you was rappin' when you was scandalous
That Canibus turned into a television evangelist"
Plus he raps with his regular voice [BOOSH! BOOSH!]
[BOOSH! BOOSH!] (What was that?) Pet Shop Boys

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Re: New EP in April: Agenda

#585 Post by le petit corbusier » Wed 27 Feb 2019, 9:33 am

York Minster wrote:Boy, I sure miss the days when they did double-entendres. Like "Can't Take My Eyes Off You". Where maybe he is looking at the person, but also maybe his eyes are literally on them and Neil is having trouble removing them from their skin. Good old days.
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