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Re: I can't stand 'Bolshy' because of Russia homophobia

#31 Post by Lleonard Pler » Fri 26 Jul 2013, 5:37 pm

Bjossi wrote:Yes, because clearly the entire population of Russia must be horrible because of a small minority of loud homophobes.
Russian government is approving homophobic laws. People and police are encouraging the aggresions. That doesn't look like a small minority to me.

3 dutch tourists jailed in Russia for being gay: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/2 ... 35803.html
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Re: I can't stand 'Bolshy' because of Russia homophobia

#32 Post by dynamobjornen » Fri 26 Jul 2013, 5:43 pm

State sanctioned stupidity is what it is!
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Re: I feel disturbed with 'Bolshy' because of Russia homopho

#33 Post by goughsjd » Fri 26 Jul 2013, 6:16 pm

Lleonard Pler wrote:Things are getting so disgusting in Russia that I feel disturbed when listening to 'Bolshy'. The russian-spoken intro is offensive to me. I can only think about news like this:

http://www.thegailygrind.com/2013/07/25 ... tin-hands/

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/this-is- ... ia-in-russ

I really hope that Pet Shop Boys release an statement about the situation and even a russian-less edit of the song as a protest.
No offence but this is probably on of the most stupid threads ive ever read

wtf has a song called BOLSHY got to do with the russian government's attitude regarding homosexuality ????????
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    Re: I feel disturbed with 'Bolshy' because of Russia homopho

    #34 Post by Drico One » Fri 26 Jul 2013, 7:30 pm

    Is it just me or has this place taken a really serious nosedive over the last week or so?

    I mean, I know the bar isn't set particularly high at the best of times, but have people been at the cooking sherry again?

    Are we really suggesting that because of homophobia in Russia, a few samples of the Russian language in a Pet Shop Boys track are "disturbing"? Jeez. It's not as if Bolshy features Parkol.

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    Re: I feel disturbed with 'Bolshy' because of Russia homopho

    #35 Post by ZiggyPSB » Fri 26 Jul 2013, 7:36 pm

    I don't think I can count that high of any Russian reference or influence in PSB's work. I can think of Bolshy, the video for Go West, the entire Battleship Potemkin score...
    This is a song about boys and girls. You hear it playing all over the world.
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    #36 Post by dynamobjornen » Fri 26 Jul 2013, 7:38 pm

    "My October symphony" is another one, "west end girls" with the referece to Lenins journey through Europe
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    #37 Post by ZiggyPSB » Fri 26 Jul 2013, 7:40 pm

    Oh and All over the world, based around Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker. I get the feeling there is a lot of PSB stuff to boycott.
    This is a song about boys and girls. You hear it playing all over the world.
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    #38 Post by dynamobjornen » Fri 26 Jul 2013, 7:44 pm

    What about "I wouldnt normally do", he sings about Stravinskys "Rite of spring"
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    #39 Post by CroMagnon » Fri 26 Jul 2013, 7:54 pm

    - 'Happiness is an option' has a reference to the Russian Revolution - "Like the Russians, wondering why, we're born under a blue sky, but die in a dark forest"
    - The choir in 'A red letter day' is from Moscow
    - A possible reference in 'To step aside' - "I look from my window, down to the square" etc. (If not Russia, then certainly Eastern Europe)
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    #40 Post by dynamobjornen » Fri 26 Jul 2013, 8:00 pm

    CroMagnon wrote: - A possible reference in 'To step aside' - "I look from my window, down to the square" etc. (If not Russia, then certainly Eastern Europe)
    Rumania i think
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    #41 Post by Bjossi » Fri 26 Jul 2013, 8:05 pm

    Crimea, Ukraine is referenced near the start of London.

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    #42 Post by Your Funny Uncle » Fri 26 Jul 2013, 9:45 pm

    Er... Neil is quite famously interested in Russian history.
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    #43 Post by Corina » Fri 26 Jul 2013, 9:47 pm

    dynamobjornen wrote:
    CroMagnon wrote: - A possible reference in 'To step aside' - "I look from my window, down to the square" etc. (If not Russia, then certainly Eastern Europe)
    Rumania i think
    I think that square is in Budapest, Hungary.
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    Re: I can't stand 'Bolshy' because of Russia homophobia

    #44 Post by Pacific707 » Fri 26 Jul 2013, 10:12 pm

    davidlilja wrote:Disliking people just because they are Russians is the same as disliking people just because they are gay... both equally stupid.
    Don't you love the irony though?

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    Re: I feel disturbed with 'Bolshy' because of Russia homopho

    #45 Post by dynamobjornen » Fri 26 Jul 2013, 11:13 pm

    Corina wrote:
    dynamobjornen wrote:
    CroMagnon wrote: - A possible reference in 'To step aside' - "I look from my window, down to the square" etc. (If not Russia, then certainly Eastern Europe)
    Rumania i think
    I think that square is in Budapest, Hungary.
    Yes it is indeed in Budapest, you are right :)
    "Sometimes someone gets upset doesn't hear the laughter takes it as a threat".

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